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MMSDome · Jul 03, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Since my last thread was closed because of vulgarity i revised this one

suggest we once again make favor based on territory and close districts down once again. Make it so your country needs to hold halls once again.

What do you think?!

Murmel · Jul 03, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

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Better the way it is.. Then you can farm whenever you feel like it.

Parson Brown · Jul 03, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

NAY!

The separation of PvP and PvE is almost complete. Soon, the entire WORLD will be torn asunder! Muahahahahahah.

Stockholm · Jul 03, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Does not matter how many threads you open on the subject, the majority are PvE players and they like it the way it is.

BlackSephir · Jul 03, 2008, 09:36 PM // 21:36

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Most of HAers couldn't care less about favor.

Konig Des Todes · Jul 03, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

I'll say exactly what I said in your last thread.

With the old system, many people couldn't avoid the idiots in the American districts by going to Europe districts, myself included. Also, Why should PvP control PvE? Back when they were basically one in the same, it was a good idea, compared to the title favor system, but now that PvP is separate, bad idea.

If you really want the old system back, then PvP and PvE must be one in the same again, AND there must be a way to switch districts between American, European, and Asian.

I think that a new system is needed. Not titles or HA to get favor, something in PvE that would be tough to do, like a new "Super Elite Area" or something. I'm not one to come up with specifics in ideas though so don't ask me what the new system should be, I just think the titles thing is way to flawed, but it isn't as flawed as much as the old PvP controlling PvE.

Although, I will say this, Halls needs something more now that favor has been taken away from it.

In short, once PvP got split from PvE, it lost all real value in terms of getting favor, so PvP has no right to earn favor. Solution: think of a brand new way for PvEers to get Favor, that is not through titles, and think of a better reward then the /rank emote for HA. That is the best way to "fix" this "problem," until those two things, or at least a better favor system is set up, it is best how it is.

anonymous · Jul 03, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

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Most of HAers couldn't care less about favor.

QFT

no thanks.

Chthon · Jul 03, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

/not signed.

I can see why the last thread tended towards vulgarity, because this idea is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing dumb.

kostolomac · Jul 03, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43

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Guild Wars is called guild wars for a reason , not PvE wars. HA based favor will bring more people to PvP. However , HA right now isn't very newbie-friendly...

Stockholm · Jul 03, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by kostolomac

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Guild Wars is called guild wars for a reason , not PvE wars. HA based favor will bring more people to PvP. However , HA right now isn't very newbie-friendly...

Ok, why would HA based favor bring more people to PvP now when it failed to do so before? Now we have scrolls if we run out of favor, before there was no scrolls and people still did not go to HA for favor.

MMSDome · Jul 04, 2008, 12:15 AM // 00:15

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

Ok, why would HA based favor bring more people to PvP now when it failed to do so before? Now we have scrolls if we run out of favor, before there was no scrolls and people still did not go to HA for favor.

So have you gone over numbers and looked at how many people pvp? Yea pvp now is in a dying state but this could get more people interested. Dont jump on some one that agree's with me just because you think you are right. Share your opinion dont just think you are right and if a person is wrong they are the anti-christ.

Stockholm · Jul 04, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

No I asked a question

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Ok, why would HA based favor bring more people to PvP now when it failed to do so before?

notice the question mark

MMSDome · Jul 04, 2008, 12:29 AM // 00:29

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

No I asked a question

notice the question mark

ok then, sir. I will answer your question. It can bring more people in for the simple fact that they may get tired of one territory having favor all the time so they may try and HA in order to win it back.

Hope this helps.

Konig Des Todes · Jul 04, 2008, 02:41 AM // 02:41

I honestly don't see why people are complaining about bringing back things how they were. People hated it then, why bring it back? I don't get you people, instead of saying "OMFG THIS SUCKS PUT IT BACK SO WE CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW THAT SUCKED!!1!!1!!!1one!!!ONE!11!!eleven!!1!!1" think of NEW ways to make things better. The current system is flawed, people know that, but the problem with the people themselves is that they don't think of new ideas and argue about whether old or new is better or worse and not ask the question how can we make things new and better?

Try coming up with new ideas people instead of bickering amongst each other like little kids. The reason why I won't make ideas is because I know I suck at doing so, I can only say why things are good or bad from an un-bias opinion.

HawkofStorms · Jul 04, 2008, 04:48 AM // 04:48

I agree with Azazel. Most people on guru make me die a little bit inside, and complain about EVERYTHING no matter what the change is.
Favor was never a deciding factor for people to play PvP. Just ask ANY PvP player. Do a search for the title "do HAers care about winning favor" I think it was made like 8 months ago. The RESOUNDING answer to that 8+ page long thread was no. Not one person who played PvP said they got into PvP because of favor. At most, a few people said that they got a good feeling when they won HA and won their region favor.

RedStar · Jul 04, 2008, 09:22 AM // 09:22

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Before Korea, Japan and Taiwan (I think that those are the other 3 regions, not sure) never had favor (except once I think). Also you couldn't go to FoW/UW with all your alliance because they weren't in the same territory as you.

And why was is that good before ?

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Guild Wars is called guild wars for a reason , not PvE wars. HA based favor will bring more people to PvP. However , HA right now isn't very newbie-friendly...

Guild wars = GvG xD. Anyways, since 2006 HA hasn't been newbie-friendly.

Abedeus · Jul 04, 2008, 09:32 AM // 09:32

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Guild Wars is called guild wars for a reason , not PvE wars. HA based favor will bring more people to PvP. However , HA right now isn't very newbie-friendly...

Yeah, Guild Wars came out in 2005 as a PvP game. But it also was not about grinding titles just to make sure you can get to high-end areas. So you can see a lot things got changed. For the worse.

upier · Jul 04, 2008, 09:38 AM // 09:38

Bring back the old system BUT keep the ability to move between servers.
It brings back the fun of rooting for our home server but without excluding people from the game.

Sarevok Thordin · Jul 04, 2008, 11:01 AM // 11:01

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Originally Posted by upier

Bring back the old system BUT keep the ability to move between servers.
It brings back the fun of rooting for our home server but without excluding people from the game.

This would just cause a zerg in the european districts.

ilipol · Jul 04, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Find a new way to gain/loose favour yes ... revert back to HA no ...
so
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